I root for the Red Sox no matter whom they play and no matter what stiff they suit up in a uniform.
Sometimes it has been hard to root for some players in a Sox uniform... but I find a way to do it.
I couldn't stand J. D. Drew when he was with St. Louis, Atlanta and Los Angeles and I didn't want the Red Sox to sign him... but when he hit that grand slam in the 2007 ALCS, I became his biggest fan.
Sometimes I WANT to root hard for a player when he arrived in Boston, but they just flop. Tony Clark and John Smoltz come to mind there.
But there are some players I just never liked.
They wore the jersey and when they did something good, I cheered. But I dreaded seeing their name in the lineup or watching them warm up on the mound.
And when each of these players departed the Sox, I thought "Good."
So, being Sully Baseball, I decided to come up with a 25 man roster of players that I just couldn't get behind, even though they played for my team.
Now I will make my 2004 and 2007 notation here. I can never say a bad thing about a member of either of those teams. As I said before, you win a ring in a Red Sox uniform it makes you exempt from being on my bad side.
That's good news for Eric Gagne, B.K. Kim, Julio Lugo, Javier Lopez and Ramiro Mendoza who would all be locks for this roster if '04 or '07 fell short.
And I am not talking about the Ungraceful Exit Red Sox, players like Manny or Damon or Clemens whom I loved while they played with the Sox and left on not the best terms.
And you will note that I do NOT have Bill Buckner here. He was a great Red Sox player and should be thought as such.
These are the players I didn't like THEN and I don't reminisce about NOW!
And these are players that I personally had memories of. I was too young to have good or bad feelings about Rudy York or Dick Pole. (Although how can you NOT have feelings about someone named Dick Pole?)
As with all of my rosters, I have a starting 9 in the lineup... a 5 man rotation... a 5 man bullpen... a 5 man bench... and a 25th player who could be a position player or a pitcher.
Let's meet the players.
THE STARTING LINE UP
Starting Catcher – Marc Sullivan
A Massachusetts born catcher named Sullivan was not embraced by ME? I, Sully, was living in Massachusetts when he played for the Sox. You'd think I'd be his biggest fan.
But Marc was the son of GM Heywood Sullivan and there was a sense that his dad was the only reason he had a job in the big leagues. And at the height of collusion, the Red Sox wouldn't resign their OTHER Massachusetts native catcher, All Star Rich Gedman. Instead the GM's son got the job. The career .186 hitter stunk and the Red Sox brought back Gedman, but his career never recovered from collusion.
THAT Sully was never embraced by THIS Sully.
Starting First Baseman – Jack Clark
Supposedly at Spring Training in 1991, someone was selling a T-Shirt that said "Will Rogers Never Met Jack Clark."
Another classic Yawkey era pick up... a white guy with right handed power and no ability to field, Clark joined the team as a DH/First Baseman before the 1991 season. And his signing made Red Sox legend Dwight Evans expendable. Dewey finished his career as an Oriole and the Red Sox got one OK season and one injury plagued terrible season before his career ended and his car payment piled up.
Starting Second Baseman – Jose Offerman
When Mo Vaughn skedaddled to Anaheim after the 1998 playoffs, Offerman came to Boston, I guess to replace Mo.
It never made sense then and didn't make sense now. Stunningly he made an All Star team as a member of the Sox, but by the second half of 1999, he was a liability. Always a poor defender, he became E-fferman. When his offense soured, he became O-For-Man. And by the end he was simply Awful-Man.
The Sox cut him and eventually he ended a member of the Bridgeport Bluefish where he was arrested for hitting an opposing pitcher with a bat. Good guy.
Starting Shortstop – Edgar Renteria
Someday, someone will confirm why the Red Sox never resigned Orlando Cabrera. He fit perfectly in the Red Sox lineup and made the defense solid. But something happened (a rumor was he made advances on the daughter of a front office man) but the long and short of it was the Sox got Edgar Renteria in his place.
The number crunchers told us it was a good move. Stat heads said he was an improvement. People who actually interacted with him predicted he was too shy and reserved to handle Boston.
As usual, people who use their eyes and brains were right and people who used calculators were wrong. His defense was dreadful and his bat was inconsistent and he seemed to hate Boston from day one. The hatred was mutual.
He ended the 2005 playoffs with a grounder and was mercifully traded in the offseason.
Starting Third Baseman – Scott Cooper
Scott Cooper was a two time All Star. Doesn't that look strange when you see it in print like that? Kirk Gibson was NEVER named to an All Star team and yet this guy made two teams.
He never batted .290. His OPS never reached .800. He never hit more than 13 homers. He never drove in more than 63 runs. He was always among the league leaders for errors by a third baseman.
Yet he made two All Star Teams.
Never once did he come to bat did I think "Oh good. Here's Cooper!"
Oh yeah, the Red Sox wanted to keep HIM instead of Jeff Bagwell when they made the Larry Andersen deal. Well why not? He was a two time All Star!
Starting Left Fielder – Wil Cordero
A lot of these players were rotten on the field, but who knows what they were like as men?
Wil Cordero proved he was pretty much an a---hole off the field. The one time Montreal All Star came over to the Sox to be a second baseman... and he was so awful defensively that they stuck him in the outfield where he held his own in the dreadful 1997 season.
But he was arrested for beating his wife and when the lurid details of the abuse became public, Sox fans let him have it. After the season, despite being a productive hitter, the Sox cut him. There wasn't a single Red Sox fan that I heard of who said "Wait! Why?"
Starting Center Fielder – Carl Everett
Starting Center Fielder – Carl Everett
Like Offerman and Cooper, Everett actually made the All Star team as a member of the Red Sox. In fact his 2000 season was a solid all around season.
He just was insane. And while it was fun to have two insane outfielders for a while (remember he played with Manny in 2001), the act wore thin. It was funny to hear him deny the existence of dinosaurs and the moon landing.
It was less funny to see him get suspended for headbutting umpires. No player better symbolized the Red Sox's unpleasant 2001 season than Jurassic Carl.
Starting Right Fielder – Bob Zupcic
For no fault of his own, I associate Zupcic with a moment of bigotry that I experienced back in 1993. I was visiting the home of my then girlfriend in Massachusetts when I struck up a conversation with one of her uncles about the Red Sox.
He said "Do you know what player I like on the Red Sox? Zupcic. He's a good player!"
At the time, Zupcic, then in his second and final full season in the bigs was a mediocre hitter with no power. The former first round pick was fizzling out as a dud.
The uncle continued. "I can't stand that Mo Vaughn. He's no good." At the time, Vaughn was practically the only good Red Sox hitter and was carrying the team. The guy kept talking about how Vaughn made mental lapses "which is the history of blacks in this country."
I told him he was full of crap and shortly afterward I was no longer dating his niece.
Sorry Bob... you were no Mo Vaughn.
Starting Designated Hitter – Kevin Mitchell
I was going to put Jose Canseco here, but truth be told, I kind of liked Canseco when he was with the Red Sox. He was fun to root for.
Kevin Mitchell... not so much. It didn't help matters that he brought up memories of his 1986 World Series prolonging single in the 10th inning off of Schraldi and scoring on the Wild Pitch... But he gave the Red Sox NOTHING in his 1/2 season in Fenway. No power, no production and no consistency.
Not even a cool injury story, like the time he chipped his tooth biting on a stale donut.
THE STARTING ROTATION
Renko has the distinction of being the first Red Sox player who ever gave me an underwhelming sensation. I truly started following the Red Sox day by day in 1979, but I remember the players in 1978, if not the season. I remember Bill Lee and Luis Tiant as starting pitchers... and when they left after the 1978 Bucky Dent playoff, one of the pitchers brought in to replace them was Steve Renko.
He was a pitcher that just screamed "blah" even to a 7 year old Paul Sullivan. Not bad and not great. Just a boring guy who will win some, lose some and offer nothing resembling excitement. When I would ask "Who is pitching?" if the answer was "Steve Renko"my shoulders would slump.
It was my first step into a larger pessimistic world.
It never seemed right, did it? I mean he won some games with the Red Sox, but he seemed like he didn't want to be in Boston and we Sox fans weren't 100% comfortable with him pitching for us.
He was a great character and had more terrific seasons that you probably realize, but Wells was a Yankee in Red Sox clothing. And when he blew a lead in the 2005 playoffs, he cemented his legacy in Boston as a guy who was just marking time.
Matt Clement was an All Star with the Red Sox. Again, seeing stuff like that in writing is just surreal.
Let me address one misconception about Clement. There seems to be a thought that he was having a great year and then he was hit in the face by a pitch and everything fell apart. It's a nice story, but truth be told, his numbers were going south before he was clobbered in the face.
He was brought in to replace Derek Lowe in the rotation after the 2004 World Series and at first it looked great. He started the season 9-1 and was 10-2 at the break. He would win 3 games the rest of the year and his ERA jumped a run and a quarter. He started game 1 of the Division Series and let up 8 runs in 3 1/3 innings and sunk any hope of repeating.
Like his last name, Penny was a cheap flier that the Red Sox took a chance on in 2009, hoping to catch lightning in a bottle. The only thing Penny seemed to catch in a bottle was butter milk as he showed up out of shape and injury prone. He was a Cy Young candidate in 2007 and in 2009 got clobbered to a 5.61 ERA, including losing a 20-11 game to the Yankees.
He asked for his release.
He got it.
After the 1990 playoffs, the Red Sox signed Young to a 3 year $6 million contract (a big contract in 1990 and one I would gladly accept now) coming off an 18 loss season with the Mariners.
His ERA was good in Seattle and GM Lou Gorman said he felt that Young was about to make a turn.
He turned alright... right into the toilet. His two years in Boston were dreadful and injury plagued. He didn't win a game his second year, although he DID lose a game where he threw a complete game no hitter.
He was cut before the 3rd and final year of his deal.
Kevin Kennedy almost never says a bad thing about anyone on his XM Radio show. But he admitted that he didn't want the Red Sox to trade for Heathcliff Clocumb before the 1996 season.
He was nothing special as a closer his first year, but his second year he was a horror show. His 5.79 ERA as a closer plus a WHIP of 1.971 made him a terrifyingly ineffective closer.
But in 1997, someone in Seattle saw SOMETHING positive. The Sox dealt him to the Mariners for 2 minor leaguers: Derek Lowe and Jason Varitek. It remains one of the most lopsided deals in recent baseball history.
Down the stretch in 2003, it seemed like each contending team wanted Pirates lefthander Sauerbeck to shore up their bullpen.
The Sox landed him, giving up on future batting champion Freddy Sanchez in the deal. The Sox bullpen did not get relief. Instead they got a lefty who got bombed for a 6.48 ERA with the Sox and made one token mop up role in the post season. Needless to say, Grady Little didn't think of using him in Game 7.
And I must give credit to omgreds.com for the Sauerbeck tongue picture.
Mark Clear never had a chance to be loved by me. He came over from the Angels before the 1981 season. Now I don't remember if he was in the deal that sent Fred Lynn, Rick Burleson or Butch Hobson over to the Angels and I don't care. All I know is three of my favorite Red Sox were dealt and Clear was one of the guys we got back.
I remember watching Red Sox games with my dad and every time Clear would face a batter, my dad would just say "Ball One" before the first pitch. Inevitably he was right.
I almost didn't put Calvin on this list because I feel so bad for him. He was a talented pitcher who probably shouldn't have been a closer.
But he was. And no player that I ever watched looked more intimidated and more overwhelmed than this guy.
I'm talking Little League as well. I am talking Lupus level nerves.
Just think, if Gary Carter, Kevin Mitchell or Ray Knight had made an out, he would have been one of the great figures in Boston sports history.
When McNamara inexplicably brought him out in the 7th inning of a tied Game 7 of the World Series, everyone knew the game was over.
By 1987, Bob Lobel had turned his last name into a verb meaning "to homer."
"Don Baylor and Dave Henderson each Schraldied in tonight's game."
He seems like a nice guy. I just wasn't sad to see him go.
Lamp was the definition of a roster filling middle reliever from the 1980s. Year in and year out he would go from team to team and be the guy brought in in the middle of games and have neither the stuff nor the stats to be moved into the rotation or the closer role. (In 1985, he did go 11-0 as a set up man for the Blue Jays.)
By the time he came to the Red Sox, he was an interchangable part that could have been named Steve Crawford.
In Game 1 of the 1990 ALCS, the Sox were down 2-1 in the top of the 9th to the mighty A's and had the heart of their order coming up in the bottom of the 9th inning. They had a shot to win if the bullpen could hold Oakland. The A's scored 7 runs that inning, 4 off of Lamp who finished the series with a 108.00 ERA.
Good relief work.
Utility Infielder – Damian Jackson
When Todd Walker was having a historically terrific for a second baseman post season in 2003 (5 homers, a 1.228 OPS in the Division Series and a 1.117 OPS in the ALCS) Grady Little would inexplicably remove him from the lineup in late innings in favor of Damian Jackson.
It would make sense if he was a slick fielding second baseman, but he was an average defender at best and certainly not worthing removing such a potent stick.
His lone defensive highlight in the 2003 playoffs was colliding with Johnny Damon in Game 5 of the Division Series, forcing Damon to lose games 1 and 2 of the ALCS. It's safe to say Todd Walker would not have crashed into Damon.
Utility Infielder – Mike Lansing
Lansing came over from Colorado midway through the 2000 season, just as the Red Sox were realizing how terrible Jose Offerman was. Lansing, who supplied some right handed pop from the second base position with Montreal and Colorado, seemed like a natural to hit in Fenway.
He batted .194 and slugged .223 with no homers the rest of the way, forcing Offerman BACK in the lineup.
Backup Outfielder – Wily Mo Pena
I called up Dibble and Kennedy on XM Radio the second I heard the Red Sox had dealt Bronson Arroyo for Wily Mo Pena. I said the trade stunk then. It did.
It still stinks... and I wrote out all the reasons why in 2007.
The fact that Arroyo is still winning games in the Reds rotation and Pena is fighting for at bats with the Bridgeport Bluefish shows how awful this deal was.
Backup Outfielder – Jim Leyritz
The sight of David Wells with the Sox may have been odd, but he looked as fitting as Ted Williams in a Red Sox uniform compared to Jim Leyritz's quick trip through Fenway in 1998.
He had no position with the Red Sox and didn't exactly play poorly... it was just odd to see him there. And he didn't look like he was really enjoying himself in Fenway.
By the end of 1999 he was back in the Bronx where he belongs.
Reserve Catcher – Javy Lopez
I didn't include the pitcher Javy Lopez because of the 2007 rule. But I'll include THIS Javy Lopez because of how badly he sucked with the 2006 Red Sox.
The Sox were decimated with injuries (sound familiar 2010 Red Sox?) and both Jason Varitek and Doug Mirabelli were on the DL. So the Sox dealt with the Orioles for former All Star and right handed slugger Lopez to fill in.
They might as well have had the pitcher Javy Lopez bat. He batted .190, had an OPS of .485 and didn't hit a homer. When Varitek came off the DL, Lopez was cut... and seeing that he never made another roster, that cut in 2006 ended a wonderful career.
It just wasn't that wonderful in Boston.
25th Man – Bob Stanley
What would this list be like without the Steamer?
It would be incomplete, I'm telling you. As they said in Curse of the Bambino, we all gasped when Stanley came out of the bullpen with 2 outs in the 10th inning of Game 6.
And with good reason. Steamer was a 2 time All Star before he signed a big contract to stay in Boston, and evidently spent most of his money at Baby Watson's Cheesecake in Quincy Market. He ballooned up as did his ERA and became a symbol for Red Sox ineptitude on the mound.
No player in Red Sox history made me grumble with disgust more than Steamer over the years.
If he got Mookie out, he would have been a God. Instead he's just a pudgy guy who drove us all batty.
So there you have it.
25 guys... all wore my team's uniform... all made me happy when they left.
And I am sure there will be many more entries to this list in the years to come.
If you think I missed anyone, write in the comments section or shoot me an e mail.
"No player better symbolized the unpleasant 2001 season than Jurassic Carl."ReplyDelete
What about Osama bin Laden?
Never forget about the fringe benefit of letting OC go after 2004: it gave the Sox two added draft picks in 2005: Jed Lowrie and Jacoby Ellsbury.ReplyDelete
I also heard that OC had something going on with Manny Ramirez' wife also...
I will forever respect Carl Everett despite all the looniness that came with him for one single moment: a base hit off Mike Mussina on September 2, 2001 that kept me from having a nervous breakdown.
I know that OC led to two solid picks... it was just odd when it happened that they just let him go and so lusted after Edgar Renteria.ReplyDelete
You left out Manny DelCarmen? Oh, he's still here, well he shouldn't be! All I can think about is someone throwing gasoline on the fire, I still wonder if he has nekid pictures of John Henry or something, it's the only logical explanation I've got!ReplyDelete
JerseyRip... he was part of the 2007 team.ReplyDelete
Delcarmen drives me nuts too, but as I wrote before, I have my 2004/2007 rule.
You play on that team, I can't boo you
Thank you for making me feel like I'm not the only one who hated Brad Penney. We saw him at Fenway last year and he totally messed the whole thing up. Thankfully we got to see Lester instead this year.ReplyDelete
Mike Torrez, you can't leave Mike off the list. He comes over from the Yankees and then, when all he has to do, if he is really pitching for the Red Sox, is get Bucky F----g Dent to do something harmless, he throws a batting practice fastball. Like Wells, he never really left the Yankees.ReplyDelete
Two words: Eric. Gagne.ReplyDelete
MARK F____ING BELLHORN!!!! I have a niece who still can't say his name without the expletive. (She was 3 at the time!)He did more for Ynkees fans than Derek Jeter in his tenure with Boston.ReplyDelete
I can't include Gagne because of my 2007 ruleReplyDelete
He was a post season hero!
Torrez isn't a bad callReplyDelete
I heard that OC was involved with varitek's ex - and somewhat respoinsible for the split. given the similarity of the rumors....ReplyDelete
good list but I agree that gag-me should be on it regardless of him getting an undeserved 2007 ring.
also, to another commentor - Mark Bellhorn hit that home run off the pesky pole in the '04 acls. all s/b forgiven.
Lest we forget... Bellhorn hit the critical 3 run homer in the Bloody Sock/A-Rod slap gameReplyDelete
He put the Yankees away with a homer in Game 7
And he hit a game winning homer in the 8th inning of Game 1 of the World Series.
Safe to say, he should get standing ovations in Fenway forever
Tony Clark, Tim Wakefield, Jason Varitek, Ortiz are all questionable players now and should be gone..ReplyDelete
You can't be serious about the last 3. Clark was a dud, but you must not really know the Red Sox or baseball if you include them. Especially Wakefield....he gave up a start in the ALCS to save the bullpen in that 19-8 thrashing. Weird how things worked out regarding the bullpen.ReplyDelete
Ortiz. Ortiz all the way.ReplyDelete
pena is at the top of my list, no red sox player frustrated me more. Any time he had 2 strikes on him everyone in the park knew he was gonna get a breaking ball, and he STILL couldn't hit it... awfulReplyDelete
You do realize that "people with calculators" played a pretty big role in putting the 04 and 07 teams together, don't you?ReplyDelete
Oh I know people with calculators help put together the two titles.ReplyDelete
But there is a combination that needs to be done. Stat analysis and figuring out some human side to it as well.
It's called balance
Absolutely fantastic Post! Lots of great information and inspiration, both of which we all need!Thank you for another great article. Where else could anyone get that kind of information in such a perfect way of writing?ReplyDelete
ts really informative and good post. thanks for sharing with us...ReplyDelete